A.C. Gilbert U.S. Navy General Service Flat Cars

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This car was produced in 1959 and 1960 in three variations. The first variation, as shown in the photo, has fiber-type trees and a two-piece brake wheel. The second variation has rubber-type trees and a one-piece plastic brake wheel. The third variation is the car without trees.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

627

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Year/Era:

1927

Length:

46'

Road Name:

Chicago & North Western (CNW)

Notes:

CNW built 900 of these cars starting in 1927.

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1946

Road Number(s):

42597

Product Type:

plastic or metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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Notes:

627 flat car with 627 orange girder beam load which was produced from 1946 through 1950 in nine variations. The variations are broken down into three major groupings. The first grouping consisted of cars produced in 1946 and 1947 with plastic chassis that has three variations. The first, as shown in the photo, has a light gray body with link couplers with thin shanks. The second is like the first except the body is white. The last variation made in 1947 has an unpainted dark gray body with link coupler that have a thick shank. The second grouping has five variations all of which have die-cast bodies that were produced from 1946 through 1950. One was produced in 1946, two in 1948, and two in 1949 and 1950. The third grouping has one variation that was produced in 1950 only with "AMERICAN FLYER LINES" stamped on the side of the gray body instead of "C&NWRY 42597" that was typical of all previous variations. The A.C. Gilbert model is very accurate, given its production era.

A scan from the 1946 catalog.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

628

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Year/Era:

1927

Length:

46'

Road Name:

Chicago & North Western (CNW)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1946

Road Number(s):

42597

Product Type:

plastic or metal or pressed wood

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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The #628 was produced from 1946 through 1953 in nine variations. The variations are broken down into three major groupings.
The first grouping consisted of two cars produced in 1946 with plastic bodies. The first has a gray body with link couplers that have thin shanks. The second is identical except that it has a white body.
The second grouping has six variations, all of which have die-cast bodies. Four of the six variations in this group were produced in 1948. One variation was produced from 1949 through 1953. The last has metallic blue body that was produced in 1953. The last variation group consists of one variation produced in 1952. According to Greenberg the 1952 variations of this car and the #636, #643 and #928 all have "pressed wood" chassis. It is believed that Gilbert used both Bakelite and/or "pressed wood" on these models in 1952.

One of the 1946 plastic body variations.

The 1947 plastic body version.

The 1952 pressed wood version. Note the larger lettering used, since there are no stake pockets on this version.

A view of the underside of the car.

A scan from the 1946 catalog.

A scan from the 1953 catalog, which shows the pressed-wood version.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

928

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Year/Era:

1927

Length:

46'

Road Name:

Chicago & North Western (CNW)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1952

Road Number(s):

42597

Product Type:

plastic or pressed wood

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was produced from 1952 through 1954. The 1952 model was either made out of Bakelite or pressed wood. All others were all plastic. Due to the Korean war material shortages, Bakelite was used, but it didn't hold the paint very well over time. This car is one of only eight cars that came with knuckle couplers in 1952.

The Bakelite (an early plastic) version.

The pressed-wood version.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

934

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Year/Era:

1927

Length:

46'

Road Name:

Chicago & North Western (CNW)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1953

Road Number(s):

42597

Product Type:

metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

Lighted:

yes!

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This car with the search light load was made in 1953 and 1954. The body was painted either gray or blue-gray with black lettering. The number 934 is imprinted on the black base in the indented area. Note that the light lights up when power is supplied to the rails.

A scan from the 1953 catalog.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24547

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

Erie Railroad (ERIE)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1958

Road Number(s):

24547

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

Lighted:

yes!

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Apparently this car was a factory error that should have never been produced. In 1958 the Floodlight Car was to have been the 24549 as shown in the catalogs and in many cases was sold as 24549. Note that the light lights up when power is supplied to the rails.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24549

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

Erie Railroad (ERIE)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1958

Road Number(s):

24549

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

Lighted:

yes!

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This car was produced through 1966 in eight variations. The first four of the eight were all produced in 1958-61 and all had knuckle couplers and utilized a die-cast lamp bracket. The first of these four variations has a red motor generator. The second variation has a yellow motor generator. The third and fourth variations of this group both have yellow generator and die-cast lamp brackets and Pike-Master Couplers. One of these two has the generator secured to the car chassis by means of two screws while the other is secured using a different method. The remaining four variations of the eight were produced from 1962 through 1966, and all have Pike-Master trucks and couplers and steel lamp brackets. Two of these four variations have a black floodlight housing (see the second photo). One has a 1/8" hole in the center of the chassis that appears to have been a chassis that was intended for another use. The other two have white light housings, except one has a gun-metal-gray steel lamp bracket while the second has the standard silver bracket. Note that the light lights up when power is supplied to the rails.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

643

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: American Flyer Circus

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1950

Product Type:

metal or pressed wood

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

Magazine Article:

NASG Dispatch, Nov 2014 (by John Eichmann)

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S Say Newsletter, May 2014 (by John Eichmann)

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There were 4 variations produced of this car. Each of them is shown in the first four photos.

The rarest car, which was only produced for two months in 1950, after which the design was changed. This version held the load in place using riveted box car door guides instead of the later wooden blocks.

This is the next rarest version, which is the red body color also produced in 1950 and used a wooden block to secure the cages and truck load.

Due to the Korean War in 1952 and early-1953, material shortages forced A.C. Gilbert to produce the car using, what is commonly referred to as, pressed wood for the car body. The pressed wood variation lacks the details such as steps and brackets on the side. The substitution did create some issues, such as paint not adhering to the pressed wood bodies. Once the paint chipped off, it exposed a brown/tan chassis that is typical of the pressed wood version.

The most common version is the yellow die-cast model with a wooden block to secure the cages and truck. It was produced from 1950 through 1953.

The 1950 red version with its load.

The pressed wood version with its load.

The common die-cast version with its load.

A scan from the 1950 catalog, which shows the very rare yellow version.

A scan from the 1953 catalog.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

605

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: American Flyer Lines

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1953

Road Number(s):

605

Product Type:

metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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Included a stack of 6 logs for the load. Available with either gray or silver body colors.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

609

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: American Flyer Lines

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1953

Road Number(s):

609

Product Type:

metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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Included an orange girder beam load, similar to the one that came with #627.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

905

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: American Flyer Lines

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1954

Product Type:

metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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Ed Kirstatter's photo clearly shows a light-green body color. Since Ed is no longer around to ask, it might well be that his model is the original pre-WWII car.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

909

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Length:

46'

Road Name:

fantasy: American Flyer Lines

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1954

Road Number(s):

909

Product Type:

metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car came with either a gray or metallic-blue body, and included a strapped-down unlabled, but painted orange, girder load. It does not appear in the 1954 catalog.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24565

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: FY&PRR

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Road Number(s):

65

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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The #(245)65 was produced in 1960 and 1961 in two variations, which are both shown in the photo. The first variation produced in 1960 has sintered-iron trucks and knuckle couplers. The second variation produced in 1961 has Pike-Master trucks and couplers. The 1960 variation in the photo is shown with an original cannon that has hollow shank and a lever on top of the cannon. The cannon in the foreground also has a hollow shank but does not have lever, which was sold by K-Line and made in China. The cannon on the 1961 Pike-Master flat car is the most common reproduction version often seen with this flatcar however it does not have a solid shank and no lever, and it was made in Japan.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

25056

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: Rocket Launcher

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1959

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This was a set, combining an operating yellow U.S. Marine box car and a yellow rocket launcher car.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

25059

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: Rocket Launcher

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Road Number(s):

25059

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was produced until 1964.

A scan from their 1961 catalog.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24553

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

fantasy: Rocket Transport

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1958

Road Number(s):

24553

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was produced through 1960 in two variations. The first, as shown in the photo, has red, white, and blue three-piece rockets. The second variation produced in 1960 has red and white one-piece rockets.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24577

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

Illinois Central (IC)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Road Number(s):

24577

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This black-bodied car has a load of two silver jet engine components. The 1960 version came with knuckle couplers, and the 1961 version came with Pike Master couplers.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24562

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York Central (NYC)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Road Number(s):

24562

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car has no load.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

928

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Year/Era:

1927

Length:

46'

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1956

Road Number(s):

928

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was produced in 1956 and 1957. It retained the #928, but was different from the earlier versions because it included 8 stakes, a processed lumber load, and knuckle couplers.

This is Holt's 1956 version with a custom log load.

This is Ted Hamler's version with the original lumber load, but re-lettered for the SP&S.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24516

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Year/Era:

1927

Length:

46'

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1958

Road Number(s):

928

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was produced in 1958 and 1959. It is basically the 5-digit version of #928.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24537

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1958

Road Number(s):

24537

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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Only produced in one year, this car came with three silver-painted plastic pipes.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24539

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1958

Road Number(s):

24539

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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The #24539 was produced in 1958 and 1959 and again in 1963 and 1964, in six variations. The five variations produced in 1958 and 1959 are as follows. The first has a black painted chassis with silver plastic pipes. The second has a black plastic chassis with Type 10A sintered-iron side frames and silver plastic pipes. The third, shown in the photo, has a black plastic chassis, Type 10 sintered-iron side frames, and silver plastic pipes. The fourth has a plastic chassis and solid non-operating knuckle couplers. The fifth (1958 and 1959) #24539 has a black plastic chassis and silver cardboard pipes. The last variation produced in 1963 and 1964 has a black plastic chassis, Pike-Master trucks and couplers and orange cardboard pipes.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24540

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Road Number(s):

24540

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was an uncataloged item that was only part of two uncatalog train sets, namely the #20018 Purity Food Store set and the # 20203 Army-Air Force Special set. Because there were so few of these two sets produced, this car tends to be somewhat rare. The three-pipe load was made out of cardboard.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24559

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1959

Road Number(s):

24559

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This all-black car has no load. Apparently it was only sold through a Sears set.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24564

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This uncataloged car was produced only in 1960 in two variations. This car came in four uncataloged sets, one of which was the #20182 "Prestone Special" set that contained the rare painted #24030 MKT box car. As you will note from the photo the car carries no number imprinted on its sides, thus the Greenberg guide lists the number in parentheses. The two variation have to do with the color and material of the three pipes which are the load for this car. The rarer variation has three orange cardboard pipes, while the more common variation has three silver plastic pipes.

Ted's model only has two pipes in this photo, but the model came with three pipes.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24566

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1961

Road Number(s):

24566

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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S Gaugian, May 2006, pg. 36

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There are two versions to this car. The rare version is the one in the photo that has a gray plastic body that was made in 1961. The much more common version has a black plastic body offered from 1961 through 1965. Note that the A.C. Gilbert catalog of 1961 showed the car as being decorated for the "Nation Car Co." with a black body color.

A scan from the 1961 catalog.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24578

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

New York, New Haven & Hartford (NH)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1962

Road Number(s):

24578

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was produced in 1962 and 1963 in only one variation. The Corvette load is the same one used in the Auto-Rama racing sets less the motor. The Corvette came unassembled with racing number "14" or "51".

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24556

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

Rock Island (RI/ROCK)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1959

Road Number(s):

24556

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This all-black car has a four-axle wheel load.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

934

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Length:

46'

Road Name:

Southern Pacific (SP)

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1954

Road Number(s):

934

Product Type:

metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

Lighted:

yes!

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This car with the search light load was never cataloged. The car's body was painted a Tuscan red, with white lettering. Unlike the CNW #934, the number 934 was printed on the side of the car as well and in the indented area of the black base. Also, note the car has additional realistic information printed on the side of the car such as weight and capacity. It is not abnormal for Gilbert to have two cars with the same number and different road names in different years, so these two examples are typical of some American Flyer trains. Note that the light lights up when power is supplied to the rails.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24574

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

U.S. Air Force

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Road Number(s):

24574

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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This car was produced in 1960 and 1961 in two variations. The first variation produced in 1960, as shown in the photo, has sintered-iron trucks and knuckle couplers. The second variation produced in 1961 has Pike-Master trucks and couplers. The load is two rocket fuel containers.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

25515

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

U.S. Air Force

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1960

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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Notes:

This is the Rocket Sled Transport pre-production flat car. It has a gray painted body without any markings and the Rocket Sled has a yellow painted body. It also has sintered-iron trucks and knuckle couplers. The common version has a black plastic body with markings in white that read "U.S.A.F. 25515" that was made in 1960 and 1961 with sintered-iron truck and knuckle couplers, and from 1962 through 1964 with PikeMaster trucks and couplers. Both are shown together in the second photo.

Shown here as part of the #26421 Accessory Pack.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

634

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Year/Era:

1927

Length:

46' x 9'4"

Road Name:

U.S. Army

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1946

Road Number(s):

42597

Product Type:

plastic or metal

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

Lighted:

yes!

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The foreground model is an example of the 1946 model with a light gray chassis, yellow floodlight housing, and tall handrails. The unit in the rear is a 1948 model with a painted die-cast chassis yellow floodlight housing and low handrails.

A scan from the 1946 catalog.

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24557

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

U.S. Navy

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1959

Road Number(s):

24557

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

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Notes:

This car, with its Jeep load, was produced through 1961 in two variations. One variation has a two-piece brake wheel, as shown in the photo. The second variation has a one-piece brake wheel. The jeeps on this flatcar were manufactured and stamped "TOOTSIETOY MADE IN USA".

Model Manufacturer Info

Manufacturer:

A.C. Gilbert

Manufacturer ID:

24572

Prototype Info

Style:

general service

Road Name:

U.S. Navy

Model Info

Gauge:

AF

Introduced:

1961

Road Number(s):

24572

Product Type:

plastic

Finish:

painted and lettered

Wheels:

hi-rail

Couplers:

AF

Magazine Article:

S Gaugian, May 2006, pg. 36

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